tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post709326983890915970..comments2024-03-22T22:09:09.407+00:00Comments on Imperfect Cognitions: The Representation of Agents in Auditory Verbal HallucinationsKengo Miyazonohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01643685718519136099noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-31063134181273882042019-03-15T10:48:18.900+00:002019-03-15T10:48:18.900+00:00I twice heard the voice of my dead father saying m...I twice heard the voice of my dead father saying my name with a questioning inflection. I answered once, even as I knew he was dead. Years earlier. when My father was still alive, the electricity failed and I was oversleeping when, clear as a bell, my dead mother called in my head: Donald, you get up out of that bed this instant. I'm sure that was dredged from my memories word for word from an actual speech by my mother. The mechanism by which that was employed at that moment, for a necessary task, has continued to mystify.Donald Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16904274294213690376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-37336079196733581882018-05-29T10:22:52.718+01:002018-05-29T10:22:52.718+01:00Genetics, telepathy, religiues, demons, permanent ...Genetics, telepathy, religiues, demons, permanent brain damage, gift, privileged, adaptation to the religion gives comfort, voices of humans brains or others creatures Living in earth, the brain as a machine communications radio used to develop you for the better, deception is possible by the external ideas if the subject is not religiues, those voices are very dangerous for humans without the exact knowledge. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-50303767256954921942018-05-07T05:50:09.751+01:002018-05-07T05:50:09.751+01:00Am enjoying reading your blog, thanks all for writ...Am enjoying reading your blog, thanks all for writing.<br /><br />Shifting away from auditory description of these voices sounds like a good idea. For me an AH was more like when you remember a person speaking to you. You don't 'hear' them speak in your memory, you sort of 'think' them speak.<br /><br />I also found the concept of agency was very important, for me at least, to be able to recover my thought processes after they were disrupted by the experience. I chose to view everything I 'saw' or 'heard' as a real hallucinatory message from an Agent that does not exist yet and tests me with untruth about reality. There is only one agent that can appear as any agent I could imagine, including myself.<br /><br />I came to the conclusion that an Agent that asks us to believe that an untruth about reality could account for all the people who choose to believe that delusions exist. What we call a delusion occurs when an Agent asks a person to believe an untruth about reality. <br /><br />For example, the Agent might ask you to believe that some other person who claims to have superpowers is delusional. If you choose to believe that the person is delusional, you would be deceived by the Agent. If you choose to believe that the other person has superpowers, without first testing their claim, you would be deceived by the other person, not the Agent.<br /><br />How can I get someone to learn my beliefs well enough to provide me with counter-evidence?Michael Bolstlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04984221042092013316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-50407234906416696522018-01-04T22:09:41.851+00:002018-01-04T22:09:41.851+00:00Reminds me of some discussions I have of how peopl...Reminds me of some discussions I have of how people visualise (I'm not up to date on the actual literature).<br /><br />For many I think visualisation is actually not a fully 'visual' experience. When we try to bring a person to mind, I suspect we are actually activating the brain network that links to a much more holistic representation.. a 'felt sense' as much any anything else. This sense may no longer be linked to any one sensorial modality, but be something that only exists in the brain. A network state no longer exactly decomposable into senses.<br /><br />Thus yes, from that perspective, I support the idea that voices are more than 'auditory', and of course, in the congenitally deaf, not auditory at all. It's not uncommon in my experience for those with auditory hallucinations to also report a separate feeling of a person's 'presence' (and indeed not uncommon in the general population' and especially the recently bereaved). <br /><br />I'm not sure however I'd be fully happy with describing AHs as 'Agents' though. There are a number of reasons for this:<br /><br />1. It implies agency. AHs don't have agency. They are also often quite repetitive and boring (in terms of semantic content, not emotion)<br />2. Many people who experience AHs, also experience delusional ideation, bringing discussion of agents into this might not be that helpful. I'm uncomfortable even when we start talking about 'voices' as if they are real voices. In therapy, I often try to help people move to the position where they ca view their voices as an experience generated by their brain (often with reference to the brain's dreaming abilities).<br /><br />(can you make your comments box bigger, it's hard to see what one has written to see if it makes sense - can only see 4 lines - safari, Mac ).ferkanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306157991853082300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-70589124143601746482014-10-07T03:57:26.371+01:002014-10-07T03:57:26.371+01:00It's only a guess, but I wouldn't be surpr...It's only a guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if soundless voices were more likely attributed to supernatural agents. Since the hallucination doesn't come from the surrounding nor attributed to one's own brain, it would be 'logical' to attributed to 'another dimension', assuming that the subject already indoctrinated in believing in supernatural agents.<br /><br />Many numinous experiences, from testimonies I've seen on the web, seem to be fairly similar to those 'soundless voices'. Maybe it is what some people describe as having a 'divine revelation'.<br /><br />Thank you for replying. <br /><br />Best wishes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229845753328931924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-42113531868584932662014-09-30T09:22:52.099+01:002014-09-30T09:22:52.099+01:00Thanks for your comment, Nath! (And sorry for the ...Thanks for your comment, Nath! (And sorry for the delay in responding!)<br /><br />There is some data, much of it conflicting, on the percentage of voices that are soundless (and often, there are no questionnaire items for "soundless", and it gets subsumed under "soft" cf. McCarthy-Jones et al. 2013). There is also some data on how many hallucinations have "religious or supernatural content" (which is importantly different from whether they are from a supernatural agent). However, as far as I know, there is no data on voices that are both soundless, and attributed to supernatural agents. This would be very interesting indeed.<br /><br />Do you think that a soundless voice is more likely to be attributed to a supernatural agent?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718298960178319622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4430111450575356526.post-69135675048956444182014-09-10T01:37:13.406+01:002014-09-10T01:37:13.406+01:00Very interesting as it opens many avenues.
What i...Very interesting as it opens many avenues.<br /><br />What is the proportion of reported 'soundless voices' that were attributes to supernatural agents?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229845753328931924noreply@blogger.com